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« on: November 05, 2009, 05:11:07 PM »

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There was a horrible shooting today at Ft.Hood. As of 4pm central time, the numbers are 12 dead and 31 wounded. One of the suspects was killed by military police and currently the other suspect is surrounded in a standoff.

For anyone in the military or anyone that has served in the service at one time or another, this hits particularly close to home. It does for me as well, as I have MANY friends who have and are still serving in the military. I have had friends stationed at Ft. Hood, and I just hope that those I know are safe and secure.

Pray for everyone affected and that the military can find a way to prevent this in the future.
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« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2009, 06:02:42 PM »

ya its crazy i have a aunt and uncle that live on base the sschools are locked down and so is he
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« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2009, 06:19:49 PM »

I think if they make a move on us I'm gonna have to let me them see my terrorist part of their arab asses.
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« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2009, 08:22:56 PM »

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« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2009, 08:27:07 PM »

I think if they make a move on us I'm gonna have to let me them see my terrorist part of their arab asses.


Are you saying this because the guy was a major in the Army and his name sounds like it is middle eastern? If so then that just goes to show the immaturity and naivete that you possess. You can not go around and assume that just because he is of middle eastern decent that he is here waging Jihad. It's exactly that line of thinking that will continue to cause us problems in the future, and if you do go into the services, you are going to do a injustice to our country by eventually stirring that same racial and discriminatory pot.

The guy was a major in the Army, and it does take a while to get to that point. So obviously waging Jihad was not his intent ( or at least until now - and even now that can not be proven in any way ) either way no one should judge him on just this one act.
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« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2009, 08:29:21 PM »

+1 Well said.
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« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2009, 09:29:12 PM »

NO he fucking kills 12 people and 31 others are wounded and you take his side? That shows how naive you are. I know how long it takes and this one act isn't small he killed soldiers and civilians. He was Muslim and so is the majority of Al Queda and the reason we are fighting a war right now, and your gonna call me racist? No I'm right he is a domestic terrorist never did I say he was a foreigner I said he was a terrorist, and his name just doesn't sound middle eastern it is, he went to college in syria I'm pretty sure that he can burn in hell because he just killed someones father, mother, wife, husband, daughter, and son. The man is a disgrace to the United States Army, and I can judge him anyway I want because that son of a bitch killed people that keep this country free. When I see you taking his side because I'm calling him a terrorist that just shows you don't love your country and nor do you respect soldiers.
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« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2009, 10:31:38 PM »

My avatar, and title say it all.  Will be there til Sunday evening.

Any of you who feel the same are welcome to use my avatar until Sunday.

So are you with me or Greg?
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« Reply #8 on: November 05, 2009, 11:35:04 PM »

We know nothing at this point, so there is little use in making accusations with almost no information to point towards or against said accusation.


We know he killed 12 people and the majority of them were soldiers
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« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2009, 12:13:56 AM »

jake, this is the point where you just shut your mouth and prevent anyone else from making you look dumb.  unless you like that sort of thing.
 im just saying..
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« Reply #10 on: November 06, 2009, 12:47:25 AM »

My avatar, and title say it all.  Will be there til Sunday evening.

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« Reply #11 on: November 06, 2009, 01:17:34 AM »

NO he fucking kills 12 people and 31 others are wounded and you take his side? That shows how naive you are. I know how long it takes and this one act isn't small he killed soldiers and civilians. He was Muslim and so is the majority of Al Queda and the reason we are fighting a war right now, and your gonna call me racist? No I'm right he is a domestic terrorist never did I say he was a foreigner I said he was a terrorist, and his name just doesn't sound middle eastern it is, he went to college in syria I'm pretty sure that he can burn in hell because he just killed someones father, mother, wife, husband, daughter, and son. The man is a disgrace to the United States Army, and I can judge him anyway I want because that son of a bitch killed people that keep this country free. When I see you taking his side because I'm calling him a terrorist that just shows you don't love your country and nor do you respect soldiers.


no you ^%%^^k, I am not taking his side. I am not naive at all because I can make rational decisions and not base my decisions on unproven facts. Who knows if he  was waging Jihad or whatever. I detest the fucker since he has killed all those people. What I am saying is that we can not automatically assume someone who comes from middle eastern decent is a terrorist hell bent on killing Americans. This guy served in the military for apparently a long enough time to become a Major, so at least he had some devotion to this country at some point.

And you sorry ass - don't you EVER fucking accuse me of not loving my country or caring for the people that serve in the armed forces. My best friend served 3 tours in Iraq you fucker for YOUR freedom, and his unit was attacked and he could have been killed. I happen to have MANY friends who have served in the military and are still doing so, and I have supported them EVERY STEP OF THE WAY. You better calm the fuck down and stop with these accusations and stop making yourself look like a dumbass.


Damn stacy, and we were just saying how we thought Jake had been doing good on the site and not causing problems, but then he goes and says this dumb shit. Yea Jake, smart - REAL smart.
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« Reply #12 on: November 06, 2009, 01:37:51 AM »

At the end of the day this is a tradgety and I pray for those who have given and lost so much. I also pray for the soul of the shooter for many of the stresses the military places on you and the undetermined reasons that lead up to this kind of an event. If he was feeling pain that could never be understood by simple words I sympathize and pray his soul is not claimed by evil for being apart of a world that makes you walk the line of good and evil.

If you have anything negative to say about this you can say it to my face so I can punch you in yours.
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« Reply #13 on: November 07, 2009, 01:00:44 AM »

I never called him a god damn terrorist because he's from the middle east I called him one because that's an act of terrorism and how about my dad and four of my uncles served in Desert Storm and my grandfather was in WWII and I'm planning on taking my ass to the recruiting office the day I turn eighteen because I wanna serve the country and make sure something like this never happens like this and I forgot to mention people like me aren't always saying something because of racial issues it's because they are speaking their fucking mind and if it was Jihad then by damn I was right.
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« Reply #14 on: November 07, 2009, 02:38:59 PM »

At the end of the day this is a tradgety and I pray for those who have given and lost so much. I also pray for the soul of the shooter for many of the stresses the military places on you and the undetermined reasons that lead up to this kind of an event. If he was feeling pain that could never be understood by simple words I sympathize and pray his soul is not claimed by evil for being apart of a world that makes you walk the line of good and evil.

If you have anything negative to say about this you can say it to my face so I can punch you in yours.

 I like your way of thinking. Praying for him and all the people he hurt and killed.
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« Reply #15 on: November 07, 2009, 02:40:22 PM »

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« Reply #16 on: November 07, 2009, 02:52:45 PM »

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« Reply #18 on: November 07, 2009, 11:30:34 PM »

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« Reply #19 on: November 08, 2009, 03:00:33 AM »

I like your way of thinking. Praying for him and all the people he hurt and killed.



Dont make me slap you around. I hope you were joking. For such a tradegty yes I pray for both sides as god is the only one who can really judge and he is the only one who is just.
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« Reply #20 on: November 08, 2009, 01:01:21 PM »

Dont make me slap you around. I hope you were joking. For such a tradegty yes I pray for both sides as god is the only one who can really judge and he is the only one who is just.


I'm sure if you were face to face you would have detected the hint of sarcasm in his voice.....
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« Reply #21 on: November 08, 2009, 01:07:07 PM »

here is the list of the 13 who have died..... Pray for them and their families.... THey should NEVER have died on the homefront by one of OUR own....


Fort Hood, Texas (CNN) -- Thirteen people died after a mass shooting Thursday at Fort Hood, a sprawling Army post in Texas. Here's a look at the victims.


http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/11/06/fort.hood.shootings.victims/index.html

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Chief Warrant Officer Michael Grant Cahill (Ret.), Cameron, Texas

Michael Cahill, 62, liked his job as a physician's assistant at Fort Hood so much that he only took one week of recovery time after undergoing heart surgery, his sister told CNN affiliate KREM.

Cahill, who served in the Army Reserve, previously worked as a registered nurse, Marilyn Attebery told KREM. He later returned to school to pursue a career as a physician's assistant, she said. Cahill was assisting with physicals for soldiers preparing for deployment at the time of the shooting, his sister said.

"I'm just upset for all the families and for what went on here. They're talking about wars and show wars and it's right there in Fort Hood and it's just devastating to everybody and all the families," Attebery told KREM.

Cahill is survived by his wife, Joleen, three children and a grandson, Attebery said.
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Maj. Libardo Eduardo Caraveo, Woodbridge, Virginia

Libardo Eduardo Caraveo, 52, arrived in the United States from Ciudad Juarez, Mexico in the mid-1970s, when he was a teenager, his son, Eduardo Caraveo told the Arizona Daily Star.

He knew little English then, the younger Caraveo told the newspaper. By 1986, Caraveo, the first in his family to attend college, according to the newspaper, had earned his Ph.D. in psychology, his son said.

Caraveo worked with bilingual special-needs students in Arizona before he entered private practice, the newspaper reported, citing the slain man's son.

He then took positions in several locations for the Federal Bureau of Prisons, the newspaper reported. He had worked for the bureau since the early 1990s.

Attorney General Eric Holder released a statement Saturday saying that Caraveo was a Bureau of Prisons psychologist. "My thoughts and deepest sympathies" are with his family, Holder said.

His son told the newspaper that his father was preparing to deploy to Afghanistan with a Wisconsin-based combat-stress-control unit, the Arizona Daily Star said.

The newspaper said he had been in the Army National Guard for nearly a decade.

Caraveo was assigned to the 467th Medical Detachment, Madison, Wisconsin.

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Army Staff Sgt. Justin DeCrow, Plymouth, Indiana

Justin DeCrow, 32, was a "loving husband and father, and we're going to miss him," sobbed his wife, Marikay DeCrow, from their home in Evans, Georgia.

The couple has a 13-year-old daughter.

DeCrow went to Fort Hood in September to prepare for his deployment to Iraq, which was scheduled for sometime between December and March, Marikay DeCrow told CNN.

He had just come back from a tour in South Korea, where he worked in satellite communications, she added.

Daniel DeCrow, Justin DeCrow's father, told CNN affiliate WSBT in South Bend, Indiana, that his son joined the Army after finishing high school in Plymouth, Indiana.

He last spoke to his son last week, WSBT reported.

"As usual, the last words out of my mouth to him were that I was proud of him," Daniel DeCrow said, according to WSBT's Web site. "That's what I said to him every time -- that I loved him and I was proud of what he was doing. I can carry that around in my heart."
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Capt. John Gaffaney, San Diego, California

John Gaffaney, a 56-year-old Army reservist, was a psychiatric nurse and worked for two decades in San Diego County, California, where he helped elderly victims of abuse and neglect.

Ellen Schmeding, assistant deputy director of the county's Aging and Independence Services Department, told CNN affiliate KFMB that Gaffaney most recently served as a supervisor for the county's Adult Protective Services Department.

"Everybody is quite shocked and shook up over what happened," Schmeding said.

Gaffaney, the father of a grown son, traveled to Fort Hood this week for a yearlong overseas deployment. Before he worked for the county, he had been in the Army, where he earned the rank of major, Schmeding said.

Schmeding said Gaffaney "really felt he could make a difference" serving members of the armed forces.

He will be "sorely missed," she said.
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Spc. Frederick Greene, Mountain City, Tennessee.

Greene, 29, was assigned to the 510th Engineer Company, 20th Engineer Battalion, Fort Hood, Texas.
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Spc. Jason Dean Hunt, Tipton, Oklahoma

Hunt, 22, wanted to be part of something greater than himself, his sister Leila Willingham told CNN. He enlisted in the Army in 2006 and spent his 21st birthday in Iraq, she said. He chose to re-enlist, dedicating the next six years to the military.

"I think that says a lot for that kind of man who makes that kind of choice for his country," Willingham said.

Willingham sobbed as she talked about the love she had for a brother who made her "super proud."

Hunt was recently married and set for his second deployment to Iraq, his sister told CNN's "Larry King Live."
I couldn't imagine something like that -- attacking another soldier. It's just ridiculous. I don't understand it.
--Kristopher Craig, brother of shooting victim Michael Pearson

    
Hunt graduated high school in 2005 and tried his hand at a career in information technology, Willingham said. But he had a different calling.

"I really feel like when he enlisted in the Army, he fulfilled that part of himself that wanted to serve other people and live for something greater than himself," Willingham said.

She said she doesn't know the details of her brother's death, but wants to believe he died trying to save others. "It's something he'd do," she said.
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Sgt. Amy Krueger, Kiel, Wisconsin

Amy Krueger, 29, was a high school athlete who joined the military after the September 11, 2001, attacks, Kiel High School Principal Dario Talerico told the Milwaukee (Wisconsin) Journal Sentinel.

"I know she was proud to serve and proud to share her experience," Talerico told the newspaper. "She took pride that she was able to serve her country."

Krueger played for the high school basketball and softball teams and graduated in 1998, Talerico said.

A high school friend who later shared an apartment with Krueger had fond memories of the sergeant.

"She was one of the best people you could have ever met," Carrie Marie Senkbeil told the newspaper.
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Pfc. Aaron Thomas Nemelka, West Jordan, Utah

Aaron Nemelka, 19, graduated from high school and enlisted in the military in the same year -- 2008. He was set to deploy to Afghanistan in January, his family told CNN affiliate KUTV.

Nemelka, the youngest of four children, was happy to offer his service, the family said in a letter read aloud by Lt. Col. Lisa Olsen of the National Guard to KUTV.

"Aaron was very happy as a combat engineer. He was anxious to be deployed to Afghanistan in January."

Family members said they were devastated by their loss.

Nemelka's uncle, Maj. Michael Blades, read a statement from his nephew's family.

"Aaron was very proud to serve in the military," Blades said, adding that many others in his family had also served in the armed forces.

"His mission is completed in this life. He now serves a higher calling in heaven," Blades read. "We love him, we miss him, and we look forward to that glorious day when the family will be reunited with him."

Nemelka had a girlfriend and he may have had plans to marry her, KUTV reported.
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Pfc. Michael Pearson, Bolingbrook, Illinois

Michael Pearson, 22, enlisted in the Army more than a year ago to realize his musical dream. He hoped the military would be his path to college, where he could study musical theory, his brother Kristopher Craig told CNN affiliate WGN-TV in Chicago, Illinois.

"He was a genius as far as we were concerned," Craig told WGN-TV, reeling from the news that his 21-year-old "little kid brother" was dead.

"He was really living his life playing guitar," Craig said. "When he picked up a guitar, we all understood that he was expressing himself."

Pearson was scheduled to deploy either to Iraq or Afghanistan in January, his brother said. He was learning to deactivate bombs and training in the Mojave Desert, said his mother, Sheryll Pearson. She was looking forward to seeing her son at Christmas.

He was shot three times in the spine and chest and died on the operating table, she said, according to TV affiliates in Chicago.

"His father is still in shock and very angry," Sheryll Pearson said. "We're all very angry."

Craig, who also had been stationed at Fort Hood and now serves in the Illinois National Guard, said he cannot accept a fellow soldier gunned down his brother.

"It's unfathomable," he said. "I couldn't imagine something like that -- attacking another soldier. It's just ridiculous. I don't understand it."
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Capt. Russell Seager, Racine, Wisconsin

According to Milwaukee, Wisconsin, radio station WUWM, which did a profile on Russell Seager earlier this year, the 51-year-old man was a nurse from the VA Medical Center in Milwaukee and worked to help veterans with mental health problems related to war experience.

Seager, who signed up for the Army Reserve four years ago, was preparing to deploy to Iraq, the radio station reported.

"I've always had a great deal of respect for the military and for service, and I just felt it was time that I stepped up and did it," Seager told the radio station, talking about his deployment.

"I mean it sounds corny and patriotic, but when you talk to people that decide to do this, the feelings are similar," he said.

The radio station, whose profile on Seager aired in August, said he had a Ph.D. in alternative medicine and would have been working in Iraq to prevent mental health problems from developing in troops.

He was assigned to the 467th Medical Company, Madison, Wisconsin.
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Pvt. Francheska Velez, Chicago, Illinois

Francheska Velez, 21, lived the dream her father never realized.

Velez enlisted three years ago, an act her father Juan Guillermo Velez always wanted to accomplish, he told CNN affiliate WGBO. He encouraged his three-months pregnant daughter to stick with the military after she gave birth.

"My advice to her was to continue with her career in the military after she had her child," he told WGBO. "Then she would tell me, 'Daddy,' always with a smile on her face, which I will never forget, 'I will continue with my military career.' That was a dream that she made happen for me."

Francheska Velez had recently returned from Iraq and was transferred to Fort Hood last week because she was pregnant, her father said.

In the wake of his loss, Juan Velez struggled to comprehend why.

"It's a very difficult slap because you understand if it was terrorists or if it happened over there during the war. What hurts the most is that one of her own killed her and in her own house, the base where there should have been security."
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Lt. Col. Juanita L. Warman, Havre De Grace, Maryland

Warman, 55, was assigned to the 1908th Medical Company, Independence, Missouri.

According to the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, which spoke with Warman's sister Margaret Yaggie of Roaring Branch, Pennsylvania, the slain woman was a military physician's assistant. She had spent most of her career in the military, her sister told the newspaper, and had put herself through the University of Pittsburgh.

Warman had two daughters and six grandchildren, the newspaper reported.
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Spc. Kham Xiong, St. Paul, Minnesota

Kham Xiong, 23, was preparing for his first deployment since joining the Army, his sister told CNN affiliate KARE.

Xiong enlisted last year and was scheduled to deploy to Afghanistan in January, Mee Xiong said.

She thinks her brother was at the site of the shooting because he was getting a medical checkup and vaccinations, she said.

With another brother serving in Afghanistan, the news of Kham Xiong's death is "hard on the family," his sister said.

"He is a loving person, everyone loves him and adores him," Mee Xiong told KARE.

Her brother was a father of three, KARE reported.
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« Reply #22 on: November 08, 2009, 06:56:09 PM »

Dont make me slap you around. I hope you were joking. For such a tradegty yes I pray for both sides as god is the only one who can really judge and he is the only one who is just.

WTF you talkin about slappin me around? I'm not no little punk you can slap around, and I was saying that yeah I like the way you think, instead of being revengeful pray for those that died and were hurt. Read before you slap someone around.
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« Reply #23 on: November 08, 2009, 09:19:31 PM »

WTF you talkin about slappin me around? I'm not no little punk you can slap around, and I was saying that yeah I like the way you think, instead of being revengeful pray for those that died and were hurt. Read before you slap someone around.

 

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